Episode 60 – Do Yourself a Favor, Don’t Stay

Episodes discussed: Doctor Who 4×16 The Waters of Mars and Angel 1×1 City of…

The Waters of Mars

Written by Russell T. Davies & Phil Ford; Directed by Graeme Harper

The Doctor meets the first human colony on Mars in the near future.  Discussion points include:

  • Primary-world Martian stuff and “realism”
  • The collision of past and future
  • The Flood and the importance of wateriness
  • The inspired and inspirational Adelaide Brooke
  • Free will or fate? Suicide or self-sacrifice?
  • The Time Lord Victorious

Link: Penn’s Sunday School Podcast – Episode 122 – “First Woman on Mars!”

City Of…

Written by Joss Whedon & David Greenwalt; Directed by Joss Whedon

Angel begins his new life in LA where he befriends a half-demon, bumps into Cordelia, and tries to rescue a damsel in distress. Discussion points include:

  • Visual and tonal darkness
  • Angel shows his range
  • The Mission Statement: Saving people and being saved
  • Doyle the fairytale “donor” and guide
  • Subversion with Tina, Winters, and Cordelia
  • The all-powerful Wolfram & Hart

Next time: Buffy 4×2 Living Conditions and Doctor Who 4×17 The End of Time: Part 1.


About Katherine Sas

I graduated from Messiah College in 2009 with a B.A. in English Literature. I'm a student of all things arts and humanities, in particular Tolkien, the Inklings, and the fantastic and imaginative tradition in storytelling.

3 thoughts on “Episode 60 – Do Yourself a Favor, Don’t Stay

  1. Just an interesting cultural FYI note on this one. Halloween, as a thing, barely exists in the UK. There’s a bit of trick or treating for kids, and you might do a pumpkin if you have children, and that’s it – we’ve traditionally saved our autumnal celebrations for 5th November’s Bonfire/Guy Fawkes Night (‘remember remember the 5th of November; gunpowder, treason and plot’ and all that malarkey – commemorates the failed plot to blow up the Houses of Parliament in 1605).

    This being the case, we have no associated history (as I understand there is the US) with special spooky Halloween episodes of television.

    1. OK, interesting. That makes sense, otherwise doing a Halloween Special would seem like the most obvious move for Doctor Who.

      Yes, Halloween episodes are a bit more of a thing here. Buffy obviously did them, and the Simpsons does one every year. Come to think of it we don’t really do Christmas specials in the US – I don’t think the shows would get the ratings to support it. There may be Christmas-themed episodes but they would run a week or two before the holiday, not on Christmas Day itself. Interesting to see how culture and tradition can impact the storytelling in a TV show.

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