Episode 236 – Finding Reasons to Fight

Episodes discussed: Doctor Who 10×9 Empress of Mars and Angel 4×21 Peace Out

Time Stamp: Angel starts at 1:10:00

Empress of Mars

Written by Mark Gatiss; Directed by Wayne Yip

Victorian soldiers attempt to colonize Mars. Discussion points include:

  • The weirdest cameo ever
  • Nardole’s participation
  • Martian history
  • Imperialist attitudes
  • Godsacre & Catchlove
  • Yas, Queen
Peace Out

Written by David Fury; Directed by Jefferson Kibbee

Connor searches for Cordy while Angel and crew take on the Jasminites. Discussion points include:

  • The name and the word
  • Does Jasmine believe her own fantasy?
  • Let’s debate Connor’s beliefs
  • Jasmine’s defeat
  • Lilah’s reappearance
  • Now what?

Next time: Buffy 7×20 Touched and DW 10×10 The Eaters of Light.

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Episode 235 – They Just Have to Band Together

Episodes discussed: Buffy 7×19 Empty Places and Doctor Who 10×8 The Lie of the Land

Time Stamp: DW starts at 1:42:50

Empty Places

Written by Drew Z. Greenberg; Directed by James A. Contner

Buffy clashes with the group on how to proceed with investigating Caleb and the First. Discussion points include:

  • Xander’s sacrifice
  • A failure to communicate
  • Of bikes and onion blossoms
  • Anya’s helpfulness
  • The airing of grievances
  • Buffy’s departure
The Lie of the Land

Written by Toby Whithouse; Directed by Wayne Yip

The Monks have taken over Earth, and only Bill can remember that they’re intruders. Discussion points include:

  • The Doctor’s propaganda
  • Is the Doctor elitist?
  • In on the joke
  • Thought-police
  • Bill’s agency
  • Missy helps out

Next time: DW 10×9 Empress of Mars and Angel 4×21 Peace Out.

Episode 234 – You Better Get My Planet Back

Episodes discussed: Doctor Who 10×7 The Pyramid at the End of the World and Angel 4×20 Sacrifice

Time Stamp: Angel starts at 57:16

The Pyramid at the End of the World

Written by Peter Harness & Steven Moffat; Directed by Daniel Nettheim

The Monks arrive on Earth and begin their invasion. Discussion points include:

  • Morris or Adams?
  • All roads lead to Turmezistan
  • The Doomsday Clock
  • The Monks as strongman politicians
  • “Consent must be pure”… Okay…
  • The Doctor’s blindness
Sacrifice

Written by Ben Edlund; Directed by David Straiton

Connor sticks with Jasmine while the rest of the crew are chased across L.A. Discussion points include:

  • Cordy: still in a coma
  • Cordy’s arc
  • Connor: immune to the blood or sold on the fantasy?
  • In the sewers with a bunch of kids
  • The chatty spider monster
  • Angel crosses over

Next time: Buffy 7×19 Empty Places and DW 10×8 The Lie of the Land.

Episode 233 – Are You Secretly a Badass?

Episodes discussed: Angel 4×19 The Magic Bullet and Doctor Who 10×6 Extremis

Time Stamp: DW starts at 57:16

The Magic Bullet

Written and Directed by Jeffrey Bell

Fred is all alone as the world falls under Jasmine’s spell. Discussion points include:

  • The cult of Jasmine
  • The chosen few
  • Fred alone
  • How I learned to stop worrying and love Jasmine
  • Fred’s badassery
  • Reconversion depression
Extremis

Written by Steven Moffat; Directed by Daniel Nettheim

The Vatican asks for the Doctor’s help reading a very dangerous text called Veritas. Discussion points includes:

  • The episode’s baroque structure
  • The execution of Missy
  • Guarding the vault
  • Another sort of religious commentary
  • Bill’s passivity
  • The Monks are coming

Next time: DW 10×7 The Pyramid at the End of the World and Angel 4×20 Sacrifice.

Episode 232 – I Think I’ve Got Some Spare Eyes Somewhere

Episodes discussed: Doctor Who 10×5 Oxygen and Buffy 7×18 Dirty Girls

Time Stamp: Buffy starts at 1:15:40

Oxygen

Written by Jamie Mathieson; Directed by Charles Palmer

The Doctor and crew test the limits of physical endurance and economics on a space station without oxygen. Discussion points include:

  • Meet the suits
  • Capitalism in space
  • Preaching to the choir
  • LeGuin & Heinlein as counter-examples of political sci-fi
  • Serious consequences
  • Nardole’s moral authority
Dirty Girls

Written by Drew Goddard; Directed by Michael Gershman

Faith joins up with Buffy’s group of Potentials while a dangerous ally of the First also arrives in Sunnydale. Discussion points includes:

  • Slut-shaming and battle cries
  • Another unemployed Firefly actor as a Big Bad
  • Caleb’s fervent misogyny
  • The group begins to question Buffy
  • “And if your eye causes you to stumble…”
  • Faith’s return

Next time: Angel 4×19 The Magic Bullet and DW 10×6 Extremis.

Episode 231 – Hope Is Its Own Form of Cruelty

Episodes discussed: Angel 4×18 Shiny Happy People and Doctor Who 10×4 Knock Knock

Shiny Happy People

Written by Elizabeth Craft & Sarah Fain; Directed by Marita Grabiak

The divinely beautiful lovechild of Cordy and Connor casts a spell over the group. Discussion points include:

  • The divine miss Jasmine
  • An antichrist?
  • Jasmine’s origin myth
  • How central is Angel, really?
  • Lady McFred
  • Fred gets back to her roots
Knock Knock

Written by Mike Bartlett; Directed by Bill Anderson

Bill goes through the hell of trying to rent a house with a group of friends. Discussion points includes:

  • Doctor Who in stereo!
  • Bill’s non-friends
  • The dodgy Landlord
  • Weird familial relationships
  • An unearned eucatastrophe
  • She doesn’t knock

Next time: DW 10×5 Oxygen and Buffy 7×18 Dirty Girls.

Episode 230 – Exactly Like Every Other Day of Your Life

Episodes discussed: Doctor Who 10×3 Thin Ice and Angel 4×17 Inside Out

Time Stamps: DW 00:00-1:19:35; Angel 1:19:35 to the end

Thin Ice

Written by Sarah Dollard; Directed by Bill Anderson

The Doctor and Bill visit the last great Frost Fair on the frozen Thames. Discussion points include:

  • The last of the great Frost Fairs
  • Tricking Nardole
  • Our blue planet
  • Industrialism and exploitation
  • Race and gender through the lens of Bill
  • Bill’s inquisition
Inside Out

Written and Directed by Stephen S. DeKnight

Cordelia sets her plans in motion while Angel tries to figure out exactly who or what she really is. Discussion points includes:

  • “Cordy’s” ineptitude
  • Preplanning or retcon?
  • Skip’s metanarrative
  • Saint Cordy
  • What exactly is Connor’s motivation?
  • Darla’s point of view

Next time: DW 10×4 Knock Knock and Angel 4×17 Inside Out.

Episode 229 – It Feels Good to be Doing Good

Episodes discussed: Angel 4×16 Players and Doctor Who 10×2 Smile

Time Stamps: Angel 00:00-1:09:30; DW 1:09:30 to the end

Players

Written by Jeffrey Bell, Sarah Fain & Elizabeth Craft; Directed by Michael Grossman

Gunn teams up with Gwen on a side mission to rescue a little girl. Discussion points include:

  • Return to the mission statement
  • Gwen chooses Gunn
  • More than muscle
  • LISA and a liaison…
  • Discomfort with Cordy/Connor
  • Tacitly letting Wesley back in
Smile

Written by Frank Cottrell-Boyce; Directed by Lawrence Gough

The Doctor and Bill go forward in time to a colony planet maintained by bots who speak in emoji. Discussion points includes:

  • A field trip!
  • The problem with emoji culture
  • Bill’s honest face
  • Erasing memories (again!!!)
  • The magic haddock
  • Nardole the nag

Next time: DW 10×3 Thin Ice and Angel 4×17 Inside Out.

Episode 228 – Knowledge Comes from Crafted Bindings and Pages

Episodes discussed: Doctor Who 10×1 The Pilot and Buffy 7×17 Lies My Parents Told Me

Time Stamps: DW 00:00-1:20:30; Buffy 1:20:30to the end

The Pilot

Written by Steven Moffat; Directed by Lawrence Gough

While lecturing at a university, the Doctor begins tutoring a member of the cafeteria staff. Discussion points include:

  • Starting Capaldi’s final season and introducing Mackie
  • New beginnings
  • The tutor-student relationship
  • Bill the sci-fi fan
  • “A star in her eye”
  • Memories again

Link: Friend from the Future – Pearl Mackie’s introduction video

Lies My Parents Told Me

Written by David Fury & Drew Goddard; Directed by David Fury

Spike and Robin’s complicated relationships with their mothers are explored. Discussion points includes:

  • Spike vs. Nikki
  • Spike’s… close relationship with his mother
  • Curing Spike of the trigger
  • Mothers’ love
  • Another Slayer with family and friends
  • Buffy’s disillusionment

Next time: Angel 4×16 Players and DW 10×2 Smile.

Episode 227 – Who’s the Big Hero Now?

Episodes discussed: Angel 4×15 Orpheus and the 2016 Doctor Who Christmas Special The Return of Doctor Mysterio

Time Stamps: Angel 00:00-1:17:00; DW 1:17:00 to the end

Orpheus

Written by Mere Smith; Directed by Terrence O’Hara

Faith journeys through Angel’s subconscious in order to save him from Angelus. Discussion points include:

  • Willow!
  • Fred calls in the big guns
  • Willow and Wes compare darknesses
  • Cordy’s desperation
  • Angel’s psyche
  • Shouldn’t it be Morpheus?
The Return of Doctor Mysterio

Written by Steven Moffat; Directed by Ed Bazalgette

The Doctor befriends a little boy who accidentally becomes a superhero. Discussion points includes:

  • Two years later (or is it twenty-four?)…
  • What’s so great about superheroes?
  • Comics and cartoonishness
  • Family values
  • What’s up with Nardole?
  • The escape from loneliness

Next time:DW 10×1 The Pilot and Buffy 7×17 Lies My Parents Told Me.