Episode 185 – I’m Not Forgetting

Episodes discussed: Angel 3×18 Double or Nothing and BSG 3×5 Collaborators

Time Stamps: Angel 00:00-1:14:00; BSG 1:14:00 to the end

Double or Nothing

Written by David H. Goodman; Directed by David Grossman

A reckless decision Gunn made in his youth comes back to bite him. Discussion points include:

  • The still point of the turning point
  • Losing another member of the family
  • Groo’s desire to belong
  • Fred’s warning and Gunn’s soul
  • “He’s just not that into you”
  • Repeating mistakes

Written by Mark Verheiden; Directed by Michael Rymer

A group of New Caprican Resistance members form a “Circle” to deal with Cylon collaborators. Discussion points includes:

  • The Circle
  • The importance of lists
  • Sam and Tyrol’s morality
  • Tigh and Gaeta return to the CIC
  • Kara’s pain and Gaeta’s guilt
  • Zarek’s hypocrisy, Roslin’s mercy and Baltar’s isolation

Next time: BSG 3×6 Torn Angel 3×19 The Price.

Episode 184 – Blood for Blood Has to Stop One Day

Episodes discussed: BSG 3×4 Exodus: Part 2 and Angel 3×17 Forgiving.

Time Stamps: BSG 00:00-1:23:25; Forgiving 1:23:25 to the end

Exodus: Part 2

Written by David Weddle & Bradley Thompson; Directed by Felix Alcala

Adama leads the rescue of the humans off of New Caprica. Discussion points include:

  • The virtue of not dragging it out
  • Ellen’s fate and Kara’s despair
  • The cycle of violence
  • Gaeta’s crushed ideals
  • BSG’s big battle
  • The saddest reunion ever

Written by Jeffrey Bell; Directed by Turi Meyer

Angel deals with his rage at Wesley’s part in Connor’s kidnapping. Discussion points includes:

  • A slightly misleading title
  • How do you go on without Wesley?
  • Cordy’s absence and Fred’s denial
  • Meddlesome Sahjahn and fallible Lorne
  • Weird creepy girl
  • Angel’s revenge

Next time: Angel 3×18 Double or Nothing and BSG 3×5 Collaborators.

Episode 183 – Caught Up in Our Own Little World

Episodes discussed: Buffy 6×17 Normal Again and BSG 3×3 Exodus: Part 1.

Time Stamps: Buffy 00:00-1:13:00; BSG 1:13:00 to the end

Normal Again

Written by Diego Gutierrez; Directed by Rick Rosenthal

Another attempt of the Trio to mess with Buffy causes her to question her reality. Discussion points include:

  • Warren’s toxicity
  • Couples on breaks
  • Revelations of Buffy’s past
  • A tempting escape from reality
  • Scary Buffy
  • The show commenting on itself
Exodus: Part 1

Written by David Weddle & Bradley Thompson; Directed by Felix Alcala

Sharon makes contact with the Resistance as the humans prepare for the rescue on New Caprica. Discussion points includes:

  • The missing survivor count
  • Jammer’s reversal and Ellen’s reveal
  • The look in Sam’s eyes
  • Baltar’s impotence
  • Toilet paper vs. nukes
  • Three, Sharon and Hera

Next time: BSG 3×4 Exodus: Part 2 and Angel 3×17 Forgiving.

Episode 182 – On the Side of the Demons

Episodes discussed: BSG 3×2 Precipice and Buffy 6×16 Hell’s Bells

Time Stamps: BSG 00:00-1:02:10; Buffy 10:02:10 to the end


Written by Ronald D. Moore; Directed by Sergio Mimica-Gezzan

Both Cylons and humans face the consequences of the Resistance’s suicide-bombing tactics. Discussion points include:

  • Alternative facts
  • Does Baltar care?
  • Tyrol: the moral compass of the Resistance
  • Gaeta, Jammer and Ellen caught in the middle
  • The domestication of Kara Thrace
  • Cliffhangers converge
Hell’s Bells

Written by Rebecca Sinclair; Directed by David Solomon

Xander and Anya’s happy day finally arrives. Discussion points includes:

  • Anya’s beauty
  • Demonic families
  • A guy like Xander
  • Anya’s conviction and Xander’s conflict
  • Xander’s fear
  • “I know what love is”

Next time: Buffy 6×17 Normal Again and BSG 3×3 Exodus: Part 1.

Episode 181 – I Made a Lot of Devil’s Bargains

Episodes discussed: Angel 3×16 Sleep Tight and BSG 3×1 Occupation

Time Stamps: Angel 00:00-55:13; BSG 55:13 to the end

Sleep Tight

Written by David Greenwalt; Directed by Terrence O’Hara

Wesley makes a dark decision in order to protect Connor. Discussion points include:

  • Angel’s manic behavior
  • Wesley’s isolation
  • The mysterious motives of Sahjahn
  • Wesley’s epic fail
  • Slippery Holtz

Written by Ronald D. Moore; Directed by Sergio Mimica-Gezzan

The story resumes fourth months into the Cylon occupation of New Caprica. Discussion points includes:

  • The dark reality of the situation
  • Everyone’s trapped
  • Gaeta the mole
  • Tyrol’s new cause
  • Leoben and Kara switch roles
  • Frustration aboard Galactica

Next time: BSG 3×2 Precipice and Buffy 6×16 Hell’s Bells.

Episode 180 – The Wheel Never Stops Turning

Episodes discussed: BSG Season 2 Recap and Buffy 6×15 As You Were

Time Stamps: BSG 00:00-1:24:20; Buffy 1:24:20to the end

BSG Season 2 Recap

We discuss the broader themes, character development, and favorite episodes of Season 2 of Battlestar Galactica. Discussion points include:

  • BSG’s place in the Golden Age of TV
  • “Final Cut” and the emphasis on character
  • Emotional fatigue
  • “Downloaded” and the shift in perspective
  • Real World: BSG
  • “The Resistance” webisodes
As You Were

Written and Directed by Douglas Petrie

Buffy struggles with her self-confidence when Riley and his new wife come to Sunnydale. Discussion points includes:

  • Dullness
  • The insecurity of young adulthood
  • Confessing to Riley
  • The annoyingly nice other woman
  • Breaking up with Spike
  • “It’s all uphill from here”

Next time: Angel 3×16 Sleep Tight and BSG 3×1 Occupation.

Episode 179 – Outsized, Outmatched, Outnumbered

Episodes discussed: Angel 3×15 Loyalty and BSG 2×20 Lay Down Your Burdens: Part 2.

Time Stamps: Angel 00:00-1:07:38; BSG 1:07:38 to the end


Written by Mere Smith; Directed by James A. Contner

Wesley struggles with what to do after the revelation of the prophecy about Angel and Connor. Discussion points include:

  • Cordy’s conspicuous absence
  • Wesley’s burdens
  • A false sense of security
  • Who is the father?
  • Wesley starts to snap
  • Dreadful surrealism
Lay Down Your Burdens: Part 2

Written by Anne Cofell Saunders & Mark Verheiden; Directed by Michael Rymer

Election Day arrives and produces seismic results for the Fleet. Discussion points includes:

  • Bookending the story with occupations
  • Ambiguous relationships and reconciliations
  • Rigging the election
  • Gaeta dooms them all with good intentions
  • In bed with the enemy
  • One year later…

Next time: BSG Season 2 Recap and Buffy 6×15 As You Were.

Episode 178 – Thanks for the Pep Talk

Episodes discussed: BSG 2×19 Lay Down Your Burdens: Part 1 and Angel 3×14 Couplet

Time Stamps: BSG 00:00-1:07:00; Angel 1:07:00 to the end

Lay Down Your Burdens: Part 1

Written by Ronald D. Moore; Directed by Michael Rymer

Starbuck leads the rescue mission to Caprica, Tyrol has a disturbing dream, and Roslin and Baltar face off in the fleet’s presidential election. Discussion points include:

  • A dark time approaching
  • Chief’s nightmare
  • Caviling Cavil
  • Debate time: Roslin vs. Baltar
  • A place to rest
  • Rescuing the resistance refugees

Written by Tim Minear & Jeffrey Bell; Directed by Tim Minear

Romantic tension between the dual love triangles within the group . Discussion points includes:

  • Angel as a rom-com
  • Cordy’s visionity
  • Groo’s place in the group
  • Wesley’s frustration
  • Fred & Gunn’s distraction

Next time: Angel 3×15 Loyalty and BSG 2×20 Lay Down Your Burdens: Part 2.

Episode 177 – Here’s Me Basking in the Love

Episodes discussed: Buffy 6×14 Older and Far Away and BSG 2×18 Downloaded

Time Stamps: Buffy 00:00-57:40; BSG 57:40 to the end

Older and Far Away

Written by Drew Z. Greenberg; Directed by Michael Gershman

A wish of Dawn’s goes disastrously awry. Discussion points include:

  • Older and farther than what?
  • Flavors of vengeance demons
  • William and Cecily
  • Patronizing Dawn
  • Normal vs special
  • Tara and Willow starting to reconcile

Written by Bradley Thompson & David Weddle; Directed by Jeff Woolnough

The second lives of Caprica Six and Boomer are explored. Discussion points includes:

  • Caprica Six and Head Baltar
  • “We’re alive”
  • Is this Three D’Anna?
  • Boomer’s humanity
  • The power of love
  • Revolutionary thinking

Next time: BSG 2×19 Lay Down Your Burdens: Part 1 and Angel 3×14 Couplet.

Episode 176 – I Have This Sudden Urge to Dedicate My Productive Cooperation

Episodes discussed: BSG 2×17 The Captain’s Hand and Buffy 6×13 Dead Things

Time Stamps: BSG 00:00-1:23:00; Buffy 1:23:00 to the end

The Captain’s Hand

Written by Jeff Vlaming; Directed by Sergio Mimica-Gezzan

Lee and Kara clash with the new Pegasus commander over leadership styles. Discussion points include:

  • A month later on the Pegasus…
  • The chain of command
  • People aren’t machines
  • Inevitability and foreshadowing
  • Tory vs. Billy
  • The right to choose
Dead Things

Written by Steven S. DeKnight; Directed by James A. Contner

The Geek Trio take their villainy to new, dangerous levels. Discussion points includes:

  • Who are the plural dead things?
  • Warren’s motivated malice
  • The idea of rape
  • Trust and intimacy
  • Buffy’s breakdown
  • The importance of consent

Next time: Buffy 6×14 Older and Far Away and BSG 2×18 Downloaded.